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Mescaline (or San Pedro) and tetrahydroharmine (THH) Options
 
'Coatl
#21 Posted : 3/11/2009 3:42:22 PM

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As far as nausea goes, SWIM NEVER GOT NAUSEA FROM CACTUS OR MESCALINE. Maybe this is because of how he prepares his cactus. He always de-spines the cactus and removes the skin. The skin is said to cause nausea. Since he’s never eaten the skin, he doesn’t really know if that’s true or not.


Same here. No nausea. Always remove the skin!

Try eating a bunch of skin one day.... Smile

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acolon_5
#22 Posted : 5/1/2009 5:50:03 PM

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FYI:

I've tried Pedro (12" extracted in IPA and put into gel caps) and 3 grams of Rue without an unpleasant side effects. The rue did add an extra energy that I've never felt before with Pedro.

Becasue I was working with cactus from many different vendors at that time and each alcohol extract had a different potency I can't guage the overall potency increase, but it was a very different experience than just taking Pedro. It certianly did not double the effects. If I had to guess I would put it at a %50 increase.

I'm not all that eager to try it again though. Too much energy to handle at times. It produced mania in my wife for 3 hours. No fun.
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I am certifiably insane, as such all posts written by me should be regarded as utter nonsense or attempts to get attention.

I don't know SWIM and personally don't trust him at all. If SWIM is posting, most likely I will not respond...as I said, I don't trust the guy. YOU I trust, but never SWIM.
 
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#23 Posted : 5/1/2009 6:18:06 PM

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69ron I personally would not mix compounds in Caapi or Syrian Rue with any type of mescaline, Lophophora or Trichocereus cacti.

I attempted this once and while it didn't kill me it was pleasant, but I trust you know what you are doing.
WARNING: DO NOT INGEST ANY BOTANICAL WHICH YOU HAVE NOT FULLY RESEARCHED AND CORRECTLY IDENTIFIED!!!

I am Teotzlcoatl, older cousin of Quetzalcoatl. My most famous physical incarnation was Nezahualcoyotl, but I have taken many forms since the dawn of the cosmos. In this realm I manifest as multiple entities at a single time. I am many, I am numbered. I am few, but more than one. I am a multifaceted being, a winged serpent with many heads. We are Teotzlcoatl.

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69ron
#24 Posted : 5/1/2009 6:22:55 PM

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You guys are talking about a different mix with different effects.

SWIM used pure THH. It COMPLETELY BLOCKS the stimulant effects of mescaline and makes it feel easier on the body. That's the complete opposite of what you experience from mixing it with Rue or Caapi. So, just because Rue or Caapi are not good to mix with mescaline, doesn’t mean much at all because their main alkaloid is harmine (or harmaline as in Rue), not THH. So we are talking apples and oranges here. There’s just no link between them. THH is not harmine and has very different effects from harmine.
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#25 Posted : 5/1/2009 6:27:54 PM

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Alright.
WARNING: DO NOT INGEST ANY BOTANICAL WHICH YOU HAVE NOT FULLY RESEARCHED AND CORRECTLY IDENTIFIED!!!

I am Teotzlcoatl, older cousin of Quetzalcoatl. My most famous physical incarnation was Nezahualcoyotl, but I have taken many forms since the dawn of the cosmos. In this realm I manifest as multiple entities at a single time. I am many, I am numbered. I am few, but more than one. I am a multifaceted being, a winged serpent with many heads. We are Teotzlcoatl.

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acolon_5
#26 Posted : 5/1/2009 8:31:12 PM

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I understand this, I was only pointing out that the RIMAs did not seem to produce any dangerous side effects, mentally or physically.

It is not 100% apples and oranges. Esp. if we are talking about dangers from MAOI activity. I personally believe that the RIMA's do not have any dangerous interactions with mescaline. Thus THH is probably ok to take with mescaline.
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I am certifiably insane, as such all posts written by me should be regarded as utter nonsense or attempts to get attention.

I don't know SWIM and personally don't trust him at all. If SWIM is posting, most likely I will not respond...as I said, I don't trust the guy. YOU I trust, but never SWIM.
 
69ron
#27 Posted : 5/1/2009 10:13:35 PM

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acolon_5 wrote:
I understand this, I was only pointing out that the RIMAs did not seem to produce any dangerous side effects, mentally or physically.

It is not 100% apples and oranges. Esp. if we are talking about dangers from MAOI activity. I personally believe that the RIMA's do not have any dangerous interactions with mescaline. Thus THH is probably ok to take with mescaline.


Yeah, I agree, I was more talking about the feel of the THH + mescaline experience with is very different from caapi + mescaline or rue + mescaline.
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