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#61 Posted : 11/29/2014 7:38:03 AM

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PC pachanoi is DEFINITELY a real clone that is very low in mescaline. Just because there isn't a published scientific journal about it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Talk to any of the thousands of people in the US that have gotten this clone and eaten it and they will all tell you that it's not very active. And it's very easy to identify. That definitely looks like a PC pachanoi. And by the way, the PC pachanoi clone is extremely common in yards in the united states. So a lot of the pachanoi you'll happen upon growing in random yards will be that clone.
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#62 Posted : 12/4/2014 8:35:27 PM

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Well my point is that it is still a San Pedro, regardless. A lot of what people call PC seems to imply that it's a different plant entirely. I can accept that there's a common clone that is low in potency for landscaping purposes, but I don't easily accept everyone's armchair analysis of plant characteristics. A "real" Pedro can look like a "PC" and vice versa. They are the same. It's like comparing shitty weed to the good stuff. Nobody calls mids "common clone" marijuana Big grin

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#63 Posted : 12/12/2014 5:06:22 PM

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Hello!

I have a deal from a local grower, but since i don't have experience with SP, wanted to check with you more experienced nexians



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#64 Posted : 12/12/2014 6:54:05 PM

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Hard to tell for sure without clear close ups of the areoles, but I'd say probable Trichocereus cuzcoensis.
The spines start straw colored at the base and dark at the tip, turning dark at the base and lighter at the tip before bleaching white.
The long central spine is kinked downward near the base.
It appears the base of the central spine is flared, like bell-bottom pants.
All cuzco traits.
 
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#65 Posted : 12/12/2014 7:25:56 PM

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Auxin wrote:
Hard to tell for sure without clear close ups of the areoles, but I'd say probable Trichocereus cuzcoensis.
The spines start straw colored at the base and dark at the tip, turning dark at the base and lighter at the tip before bleaching white.
The long central spine is kinked downward near the base.
It appears the base of the central spine is flared, like bell-bottom pants.
All cuzco traits.




Thanks for helping me out! Appreciate it! Pleased
As i was considering these cacti for extracting mesc, i'd better get some T Pachanoi or Bridgesii.



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#66 Posted : 12/13/2014 12:05:58 AM

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Those look pretty nice! Might want to pick one up to grow. Some say the T. cuzcoensis can be active, but I have little experience with it. Smile Still, it's a good looking cactus.
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#67 Posted : 12/13/2014 12:15:59 PM

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Hey, AcaciaConfusedYah, sure, they do! That guy seem to be quite experienced cacti grower, he's was even offering some Peyote cacti few months ago.

Anyway a did a little research on Trichocereus cuzcoensis , quite miniscule amount of alkaloid content,




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Trichocereus cuzcoensis


3-methoxytyramine >50mg/100g >50%

tyramine <1%

mescaline <1%

3-hydroxy-4,5-dimethoxyphenethylamine trace




as seen on here

I might get a few near future though
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#68 Posted : 12/14/2014 5:41:34 PM

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Cuzco's make great grafting stock for bridgesii/pedro/peyote.
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#69 Posted : 12/14/2014 8:42:35 PM

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It could be peruvian torch too, cuzco and peruvian torch look alot alike and the one long spine in the center of each group makes me think it might be peruvian torch.

Also ive heard some cuzcos are active, while some are not so much.

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#70 Posted : 12/14/2014 9:02:17 PM

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wearepeople wrote:
Cuzco's make great grafting stock for bridgesii/pedro/peyote.


Hey, thanks for giving me insight on that.

I was given the opportunity to have L. Williamsi seeds by geneorous nexian fellow, a kind gift from the Universe supposedly that comes with all the responsibilities. So I am considering either a december or spring sowing of the seeds, and would definitely try a few of the plants for grafting experiments in future.

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#71 Posted : 1/14/2015 12:56:07 AM

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My parents know I like succulents so, when visiting for Christmas, they gave me this cactus they had bought on a whim. It had some small, fake red flowers hot glued to the top but as soon as I saw it, I noticed how much it looked like Pedro. I singed the spines off so I could handle the cactus well enough to get the globs of hot glue off of the top.
I would love the opinion of some more experienced eyes on exactly what type of cactus it is. At the very least, it could serve as good graft stock. Also, roots are beginning to peek out of the drain hole of the little pot it came in, but I'm wary of repotting in the winter.
Any feedback is greatly appreciated.
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#72 Posted : 1/14/2015 4:35:12 AM

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Looks kinda like a Stenocereus griseus with the spines clipped. Not a trichocereus. Stenocereus are great grafting stock.

And by the way, I absolutely hate how those big box stores put a giant glob of hot glue on top of their cacti and stick those ugly flowers on them. They look nothing like cactus flowers and the glue screws up the plant big time. I've seen them literally glue the growth point down and the plant gets all warped and even sometimes tears because it's trying to grow around the glue. I've even seen them straight up paint cacti and call them "Kosmic Kaktus" "The cactus with psychedelic colors!!!" Hahahaha. Rediculous.
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#73 Posted : 1/16/2015 6:47:05 PM

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Not San Pedro.
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#74 Posted : 1/20/2015 1:16:00 AM

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Thanks for the responses. At least I have some good grafting stock and I'm never upset about having another succulent lol. I'm curious though, what features allowed you to rule it out as being a trich? I've perused a great many threads about identifying, and seem to have gathered a decent general understanding of what to look for, but I'm always looking to refine my eye in identifying any kind of plant.
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#75 Posted : 1/20/2015 4:13:07 PM
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ribs too pronounced/shrunken, Areoles and spines worng
 
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#76 Posted : 1/20/2015 10:10:13 PM

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I bought these from a nursery which specializes in cacti when they were much smaller. Unfortunately, there were no name tags. Can anyone help with an id?
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#77 Posted : 1/23/2015 5:40:15 AM

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I can't help with specific IDs (I think one is a myrtyllocactus) but it doesn't look like any are in the trichocerious family. Sorry!
 
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#78 Posted : 1/23/2015 2:28:59 PM

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#79 Posted : 1/29/2015 9:42:47 AM

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Fourth one down appears to be Myrtillocactus geometrizans - looks like one I have. That is the trouble with ribbed columnar cacti - there are just so many that look the same.
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#80 Posted : 1/30/2015 1:15:02 AM

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Spanishfly wrote:
Fourth one down appears to be Myrtillocactus geometrizans - looks like one I have. That is the trouble with ribbed columnar cacti - there are just so many that look the same.


You're not lying. I just planted some San Pedro, Peruvian torch and terchekii seeds the other day. Some have sprouted already. I think it's going to be well worth the wait to grow them, and I know exactly what I have.
 
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