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Is this acacia maidenii? Options
 
skyline97
#1 Posted : 12/6/2015 4:19:40 AM
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Are these acacia maidenii? I believe so been told so always, So getting help from here Smile
I plan to extract some DMT if these are what i believe they are Smile

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#2 Posted : 12/8/2015 12:51:28 AM
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Bump still looking for an answer please
 
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#3 Posted : 12/8/2015 1:10:46 AM

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It's tough to tell without seeing the flowers.
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I'm just waiting for these bloody plants to grow
 
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#4 Posted : 12/8/2015 2:46:48 AM
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Sphorange wrote:
It's tough to tell without seeing the flowers.


Hmm that what someone told me also, I believe they don't flower for quiet a while so that's hard, Anyway to test kit a tree? lol.

Anyway to know if it is besides waiting for the flowers?
 
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#5 Posted : 12/8/2015 6:34:20 PM

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Have you done the research to confirm that the plants you are hoping to ID even grow in your area?
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#6 Posted : 12/8/2015 6:53:51 PM

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It doesn't look like maidenii to me. They have narrower phyllodes and a different overall shape. Those phyllodes look more like confusa, but the bark doesn't look like the young confusa I've seen.

The plant in the foreground here is a maidenii. Confusa behind to the right.

Snozz is also right- depending on where you live is a huge indicator if that is an interesting acacia.
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#7 Posted : 12/9/2015 6:15:02 AM

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You can always chip a tiny little bit of bark off of the tree and do a mini extraction, even the dmt smell would be an indication.

If it is, then 'when there there is one, there are many' so keep searching, perhaps even for a nearly dead or dying tree.
 
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#8 Posted : 12/9/2015 7:50:19 AM
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SnozzleBerry wrote:
Have you done the research to confirm that the plants you are hoping to ID even grow in your area?


Yes the acacia maidenii grow's in my area.
 
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#9 Posted : 12/9/2015 7:52:09 AM
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Continuum wrote:
It doesn't look like maidenii to me. They have narrower phyllodes and a different overall shape. Those phyllodes look more like confusa, but the bark doesn't look like the young confusa I've seen.

The plant in the foreground here is a maidenii. Confusa behind to the right.

Snozz is also right- depending on where you live is a huge indicator if that is an interesting acacia.


Hmm intresting mate thanks for you're reply.

Yeah they are %100 in my area, I happen to live in an area that Acacia maidenii grow everywhere, I ask one property owner what are these tree's on you're property he replied "acacia maidenii"

There is literally hundreds of them around, If not thousands.
 
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#10 Posted : 12/9/2015 7:54:14 AM
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fathomlessness wrote:
You can always chip a tiny little bit of bark off of the tree and do a mini extraction, even the dmt smell would be an indication.

If it is, then 'when there there is one, there are many' so keep searching, perhaps even for a nearly dead or dying tree.


Thanks mate i might do this!

Already searched there is hundreds of these trees around i've been told they are Acacia maidenii and they %100 grow in my area, So i'm hoping they are

Someone above said they could be confusa, I looked up the location i don't believe they grow in my area. I might go take some pictures of 5-10 of these tree's I haven't had a time to have a good look at them all pictures wise and see if their slightly different i'm almost certain what ever this tree is there all the same around here though.
 
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#11 Posted : 12/9/2015 4:44:54 PM

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Do acacia acuminatas grow where you are? It looks like possibly a broad phyllode acuminata.
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#12 Posted : 12/11/2015 9:12:18 AM
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Continuum wrote:
Do acacia acuminatas grow where you are? It looks like possibly a broad phyllode acuminata.


Just had a look, acacia acuminatas do not grow where i am, Not even in my state.
 
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#14 Posted : 12/12/2015 2:27:36 AM
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Continuum, love your trees! Amazing! you have made me jelous!


I take it you think these are acacia maidenii? Very happy
 
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#15 Posted : 12/12/2015 3:25:27 AM

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Continuum wrote:
It doesn't look like maidenii to me. They have narrower phyllodes and a different overall shape. Those phyllodes look more like confusa, but the bark doesn't look like the young confusa I've seen.

The plant in the foreground here is a maidenii. Confusa behind to the right.

Snozz is also right- depending on where you live is a huge indicator if that is an interesting acacia.



this isn't really true.. to my knowledge there are a number of variants within the species and the narrow phyllode "type" is just one of the variants. the phyllode shape in the OP is actually typical of some maidenii variants.. best way to tell will be through pods (coiled in maidenii's case) and the short sparse cream coloured flower rods



 
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#16 Posted : 12/12/2015 3:40:25 AM

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skyline97 wrote:
[quote=fathomlessness]You can always chip a tiny little bit of bark off of the tree and do a mini extraction, even the dmt smell would be an indication.

If it is, then 'when there there is one, there are many' so keep searching, perhaps even for a nearly dead or dying tree.


active maidenii apparently has good % of alkaloids in the phyllodes/twigs so it isn't even really neccesary to use bark... I remember nen saying in some cases phyllode content was as high or higher as bark? nen?
 
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#17 Posted : 12/12/2015 4:52:15 AM
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acacian wrote:
skyline97 wrote:
[quote=fathomlessness]You can always chip a tiny little bit of bark off of the tree and do a mini extraction, even the dmt smell would be an indication.

If it is, then 'when there there is one, there are many' so keep searching, perhaps even for a nearly dead or dying tree.


active maidenii apparently has good % of alkaloids in the phyllodes/twigs so it isn't even really neccesary to use bark... I remember nen saying in some cases phyllode content was as high or higher as bark? nen?


If i can use twigs that's awesome!
 
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#18 Posted : 12/12/2015 3:03:53 PM

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Thanks for clarifying, acacian! I would love to score some of the broad phyllode maidenii seeds.

Also, do you have a different ID on the plants in the pic above? It's my understanding that the tall one with narrow phyllodes in the foreground is maidenii, behind to the right is confusa, back left on the lower level is farnesiana, and the light green one peeking in in the front left corner is simplex, but as much as I love the plants I'm a noob and rely on the ID of the seeds. I'd value your input. Smile
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#19 Posted : 12/13/2015 3:14:17 AM
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I'm to believe maybe these tree's are A. Maidenii I'm going to take some more pictures of 5+ total tree's with a half decent camera

i'll be posting them soon
 
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#20 Posted : 12/14/2015 12:22:51 AM

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I grow madenii and confusa, my madenii has much narrower philodes than the pics you posted in the op. Yours look more like my confusas.
 
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