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#21 Posted : 2/12/2014 4:49:59 PM

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Posting cross-back, because, as you may know, we've been effectively discussing the same thing in two places simultaneously (both via hijack!)




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#22 Posted : 9/9/2015 6:23:29 PM
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How many times must we see posts totally ruined because someone calls something ayahuasca.
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#23 Posted : 9/9/2015 8:55:08 PM

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Back to the OP---

primordium wrote:
I am simmering 40g of ACRB and will later be simmering 8g of Syrian Rue (both of these ingredients will be halved for two doses).


As others have mentioned here, 20g of typical bark could be a heavy trip with just minimal MOA inhibition. The potency of bark can vary significantly, too.

4g of rue can also be a heavy dose (3g is a typical dosage), as the harmala content of the seed reportedly varies considerably from season to season.

If this is a first time with these ingredients, I would recommend you either reduce the dosage a bit, or drink half, wait 30 minutes and then take the rest-- in case the first dose hits you for more than you expect.

On the other hand, if you find you and your friend require more than typical levels of DMT to achieve the desired affects, the dosage may be fine. IME, I prefer to have a mild experience to work up from than have something that's too strong and have to dial down. Heck, I prefer the control pharma gives me for this reason.

primordium wrote:
When I simmer, even at a low temperature, there is heavy evaporation. I should just be adding water, right?


Yep. Some folks do without any acid when boiling.

primordium wrote:
Instead of 3 hours for the ACRB for 3 times, I will be doing 2 hours each of the 3 times; I know this is not optimal, but it should cut it, right?


Gilbran noted that about 83% of available alkaloids in caapi were released after two hours. How Much Boiling of Caapi is Really Needed

I know you aren't working with Caapi, but I would imagine 6 hours of boiling should serve you well. That is, unless you are working with bigger bark chunks.

primordium wrote:
For the Syrian Rue, I don't need to powderize or otherwise crush the seeds, right? I plan to just going to simmer them for about an hour or so. Sound good?


Whole seeds should work. IMO, working with whole seeds makes the process less predictable, so despite the challenge of filtering, I would opt for crushing. I haven't worked with Rue yet, but plan to, and this thread indicates that it may be easier to work with the seeds crushed rather than powdered:
Harmalas extraction-syrian rue

Best of luck. Report back with your results!


 
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