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The Traveler
#21 Posted : 1/11/2007 7:20:03 PM

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Your welcome, Hopefully you get some good spice out of it. Else you could use what you have in an aya brew?
 

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#22 Posted : 1/11/2007 8:57:18 PM

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Acetone cannot be used in place of NP solvent. It's soluable in water for one thing, so you can't separate it and it forms nasty compounds in the presence of lye which will stay behind in the final product. You should be getting around 200mg of goodies out of your 40g. That's plenty to clean, so see if more spice comes out of your solution with the extra lye first. If you still have your plant material, throw that in the mix too. Do three pulls with your NP of choice, heating the solution to just short of boiling before the last one. Combine the solvents and reduce them to 25% of their original volume and put these in a jar in the back of a very cold freezer, and I'll bet you will be very happy in the morning.
 
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#23 Posted : 1/12/2007 11:30:34 AM
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hey guys - guess what!? Yesterday evening I prepared another pull with naphta from one of my solution jars. First added some more lye, then evaporated the naphta over night. I just got up and had a look at - happy happy joy joy - nice white crystals are forming in my evaporation dish Smile
 
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#24 Posted : 1/12/2007 1:01:16 PM

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Well, there you go. Good to hear it's finaly working out for you.
 
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#25 Posted : 1/12/2007 8:33:54 PM

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Told ya! Cool. If you'd like to do your fellow adventurers a favor, how about writing to Erowid and telling them about how the QT tek almost fucked you and how they need to get Noman's tek up?
 
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#26 Posted : 1/13/2007 4:32:13 AM

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Hahaha, really liking your own tek? Pleased Nah, just kidding, in the 'real' world some amazing things happened to me, it's like watching some hypermovie unfold. Razz Twisted Evil
 
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#27 Posted : 1/13/2007 8:15:15 AM

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That was a bit self serving wasn't it? Sorry, it's just that I have a vendetta for QT's tek after losing my first kilo of bark to her and Yoda's foolishness. Erowid shouldn't have stuff like that up that doesn't work - so I wrote something that works and I'm lobbying them to get it on there.
 
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#28 Posted : 1/13/2007 5:43:19 PM
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My freind yielded more than twice the ammount using nomans tek, as he did doing a/b's out of the same batch of bark...
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#29 Posted : 1/14/2007 12:46:17 PM

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My friend did a stupid thing the other day. He normally likes to speed up the extraction to naptha phase by warming the base solution prior to adding naptha in the microwave. He normaly used glass mason jars for this part and found it worked well. One day without thinking he put his base solution into a plastic jug, zapped it with radiation and then added his naptha. the next day from his freezer he harvested granules of polythene. They had the familiar smell of dmt but that was it. He first tried to re extract using fresh naptha that didnt work, they didnt want to desolve. He then decided to start from scratch, going back to acid. He ended up with a smaller amount of polythene than he started with but still has the familiar smell. BOLLOX! Does anybody have any sugestions? He started of with 1kg of MHRB and dosnt feel inclined to flush it down the pan to quickly. It might work oraly with a MAOI but he hasnt tried that root yet.
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#30 Posted : 1/14/2007 3:45:57 PM
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Ronsonal lighter fluid=light and medium aliphatic Naptha. Is it ok to use? The last time I bought the same brand I swear it said it contained Naptha and Heptane and it worked well. Can't get VM&P in my part of the worldSad Thanks
 
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#31 Posted : 1/15/2007 5:15:31 PM

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I think Ronsonal is ok to use.I'm pretty sure I have seen somewhere that this was used before with good results.I can't recommend it from personal experience though.Evaporate some and see if there is any residue left.
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#32 Posted : 1/15/2007 6:13:49 PM
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Naphtha should be as clear as H2O, not NYC tap water, but dH2O. Ronsinol Naphtha has a yellow tint the last I saw (sept.06) but years ago my freind used some in an lsa extract as a defatter. Today that freind of mine is alive and well, he is my master, I only live to represent his experiences, I love the man...
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#33 Posted : 1/15/2007 6:18:13 PM
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Magic clown- Cleaning out polymers is not an easy thing to do, otherwise the earth would be a much more...earthy place, if you can figure out how to do it we'll all be better off. If the extra a/b helped a little maybe it should be done again, and again.
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#34 Posted : 1/15/2007 11:28:58 PM
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I just finished preparing the recrystallisation - in the end with the extra lye i got around 0.5g off yellow goo that looks like pulled out of somebodys ear ;-P after adding warm naphta a lot of dust and some of the yellow stuff remained at the bottom. i sucked out the warm naphta (~15ml) and put it in the freezer. really looking forward to tomorrow Pleased
 
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#35 Posted : 1/16/2007 1:18:51 PM
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yeah! nice white, a little yellowish tiny crystall balls were found in my freezer this morning Very happy it seems i used too less naphta. just prepared another freezer pull. thanks a lot for the help, without you i'd bee stuck with my yellow earwax (and with 0.5g earwax out of 40g mimosa, i don't want to know what the other .3g are *G*)
 
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#36 Posted : 1/16/2007 1:45:55 PM

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Hooray! Away with the earwax. Pleased Now I think about it... My Crystals were already crystals but a little bit too yellow. I resolved it in wasbenzine (solvent I use) and some dark yellow/brown residue was left on the bottom of the container. After this wash the crystals were much whiter as before. Also after my washing, I divided my crystals into two classes: B class and C class. B class is the cleanest and is used for smoking. C class is less clean compared to B and is used for aya. Of course A class would be pure white DMT crystals. Twisted Evil
 
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#37 Posted : 1/16/2007 8:33:56 PM

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A - class? [img:47dc000d61]http://img307.imageshack.us/img307/2128/crytb7.jpg[/img:47dc000d61]
 
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#38 Posted : 1/16/2007 9:13:43 PM

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Funky crystals Noman!! A+ Class I would say. Love the 'Made in US' part btw. Pleased
 
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#39 Posted : 1/16/2007 11:32:44 PM

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Wow Noman!Those are beautuful crystals,That looks like it's 99.9% pure magic.
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#40 Posted : 1/17/2007 12:33:28 AM
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Thats pretty fuckin amazing... Do they look so clear in real life? Bravo
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