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Jox
#1 Posted : 10/13/2014 1:49:03 AM

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Hi all,

I had some DMT, from emdlessness'' tek. I bought in Mexico "bencina blanca rectificada" I was told in a Spanish language forum that this is hexane. But it was not, my dmt didn't get dissolved, but instead all the impurities got dissolved. At first I was pissed, but then I realized I ended up with cleanest dmt ever in seconds.

I researched Wikipedia and concluded that bencina blanca rectificada is whit spirit in Wikipedia is this page. Even if heated it doesn't dissolve dmt.

So now I get great results extracting with endlessness tek and cleaning up with this solvent.

What is exactly the solvent I have? For sure it is great dmt cleaning solvent.
 

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#2 Posted : 10/13/2014 8:35:11 AM

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warm white spirit will dissolve DMT, you can use it in freeze precip, have you warmed it up a little?
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#3 Posted : 10/13/2014 8:43:01 AM
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I'm interested in this please let us no how it goes, whether it cleans it or it dissolves in white spirit
 
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#4 Posted : 10/13/2014 7:39:29 PM

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According to the msds sheet of "bencina blanca rectificada" the boiling point is 155 - 217 deg C. These numbers aprox matching the boiling points of respectively C8 to C10-C11, and merely corresponds to white spirit indeed.

Jox wrote:
..."bencina blanca rectificada" I was told in a Spanish language forum that this is hexane...
Seriously wrong info in that forum.
 
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#5 Posted : 10/14/2014 11:36:59 PM

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Jees,

Thank you for the info.

So I reckon that it is similar, all very confusing, for me.

But the cleaning method is really good, in no time all the impurities are gone and it dries in seconds, I can post pictures if anybody wants.

 
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#6 Posted : 10/15/2014 10:49:48 PM

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Hmm, very interesting indeed. Please do post the shots if you get the time to.
 
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#7 Posted : 10/16/2014 6:42:05 AM
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So is it insoluble or soluble in white spirits, can you put some pictures on please
 
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#8 Posted : 10/16/2014 7:06:13 AM

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3rdI wrote:
warm white spirit will dissolve DMT, you can use it in freeze precip, have you warmed it up a little?
. so perhaps all it would need is a fridge precip? if its 'not very soluable' in the solvent does that still mean you would get losses by "cleaning" spice with this solvent at low temperature? or just cleaning at roomtemp as Jox did, then FP the losses?

Jox this is very exciting if it turns out to be effective and easy. does anyone know if white spirits leaves behind any nasty stuff when evaporated?
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i have used bartoline low odour white spirit in the uk for freeze precip and it works, its a nightmare to evap but DMT is definately soluble in it.

maybe if jox's whitespirit was cold then it would take the impurities but not the Magic, but that is purely speculation on my part.
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#10 Posted : 10/16/2014 9:40:12 AM

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3rdI wrote:
..., its a nightmare to evap...
versus
Jox wrote:
... it dries in seconds..

This is strange for white spirit to evap this fast.

"White spirit" or "turpentine" is a common name for many possible mixture ratio's, seems Jox you have one that suits the purpose. Not all white spirits might do as well, the amount of heaviest molecules in the mix (with 10 and more carbon atoms) and their high boiling point are the game spoilers for evap speed. Even the same brand won't guarantee same constitution ratios every time for every bottle they sell over time. The data sheets stray from publicizing pin point ratio's of pure molecules, and the mentioned elements like Naphtha or Petroleum are non specific in their own turn. The best you get is like "heavy" naphtha, but "heavy" is what exactly? Those terms come out of refinery gross indications, not lab chemistry detail. It's a bit a wild guess what one exactly obtains with common names, all you have is "a range".
 
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#11 Posted : 10/17/2014 1:18:19 AM

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Jees thank you for responding,

I may not ever find out what this solvent is for sure, but it is in the family if turpentines, this is good to,know.

When I say it dries quickly I was referring to drying the wet crystals, or drying harmalas after defating, not evapping.

The crystals I am referring to are from ethyl alcohol extraction.

Wonder why they don't dissolve even when heated in white spirit?

This may possibly lead to something.

 
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#12 Posted : 12/10/2015 5:05:06 PM

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I was reading the MSDS Jees posted and I realized that White spirit contains Benzene:

White Spirit MSDS wrote:

COMPOSITION/INFORMATION ON INGREDIENTS
EC No.
Name Classification
CAS-No. Content
200-753-7
BENZENE F;R11 Carc1;R45 T;R48/23/24/25
71-43-2 <0.1

265-185-4
Naphtha(Petroleum) Hydroesulphurised Heavy Xn;R65. N;R51/53. R10,R66.


Yikes, be really careful with that stuff! Benzene is very carcinogenic. Did you have a fume hood or something to let you avoid breathing in any fumes?
 
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#13 Posted : 12/11/2015 1:44:10 AM

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Old thread.

Also note the:
Quote:
BENZENE F;R11 Carc1;R45 T;R48/23/24/25
71-43-2 <0.1

meaning there's less than 0.1% of benzene in the white spirit. This is precisely because of its known carcinogenicity. Benzene is not allowed in household products (except maybe petrol/gasoline).
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Jox wrote:
Jees thank you for responding,

I may not ever find out what this solvent is for sure, but it is in the family if turpentines, this is good to,know.

When I say it dries quickly I was referring to drying the wet crystals, or drying harmalas after defating, not evapping.

The crystals I am referring to are from ethyl alcohol extraction.

Wonder why they don't dissolve even when heated in white spirit?

This may possibly lead to something.


If no base was used in the ethanol extraction, then you most likely have a salt. Salts generally are not very soluble in non polar solvents.
 
 
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