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xylene pulls / then evap resulting in yellow crystals.. Options
 
lorax
#1 Posted : 8/15/2008 5:25:11 PM

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hi folks..

SWIM just wanted to set things right for those people who seem to believe that xylene pulls don't result in crystals.

SWIM has followed nomans tek until the point where he was supposed to use naphtha. since SWIM had no naphtha at the time he pulled 4 times with xylene. he then evapped the xylene in a hot water bath and when there just seemed to be an oily rest left with a little bit xylene in it he put in in a dark cupboard for 3 days for the rest of the xylene to slowly evaporate.

SWIM didnt think it would result in crystals because people had told him that he would only get oily goo.

when SWIM had a look in the cupboard after 3 or 4 days he was amazed to find bright yellow crystals and some red oil. the crystals and the oil kinda seperated themselves. (the oil went in one corner while the crystals were growing all over the place). the only place where there were no crystals to be found was in the area where the oil was.

SWIM got about 1 10th of oil, rest crystals.

SWIM will now let it sit for another week or so just to be sure that every tiny bit of xylene has evaporated. then he will try and suck up the oil with a syringe so that he can scrape together the crystals without the chance to get any oil in there.

SWIM has been told by someone that he should wash the yellow crystals with ammonia.. what kind of filter do you recommend to SWIM?

since its a very small amount he doesnt wanna use coffe filters because everything seems to stick to them so easily.

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#2 Posted : 8/15/2008 5:49:16 PM

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You shouldn't have to wash them with ammonia.

SWIM always did a regular freeze precipitation and took the crystals as they were with no problems.
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#3 Posted : 8/15/2008 6:13:05 PM

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I've gotten half inch needle shards with just freeze precip.
 
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#4 Posted : 8/15/2008 7:08:25 PM

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DO NOT WASH THE CRYSTALS.

If you wanted to do a wash, you needed to do it while the spice was still in the xylene.

Washing crystals is just a great way to lose yield and possibly contaminate your spice (if using sodium carbonate or any other non volitile base).
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I don't know SWIM and personally don't trust him at all. If SWIM is posting, most likely I will not respond...as I said, I don't trust the guy. YOU I trust, but never SWIM.
 
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#5 Posted : 8/15/2008 7:25:42 PM

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I agree. Don't wash the exposed crystals. Wash while it's still in the non-polar solvent.
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#6 Posted : 8/17/2008 10:56:24 AM

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SWIM just seperated the jungle oil from the yellow shards by pulling out the yellow shards with some naphta he has added it to his next batch and it is preciping at the moment. SWIM then wants to clean the spice by using acolon_5's washing tek(the one you posted in the sticky thread)

how would SWIM go upon washing the bark solution?

how should one use the oil.. is there a way of making it powdery so one can better measure it?

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#7 Posted : 8/19/2008 12:22:14 PM
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40oztofreedom, amor_fati

Do you mean that you managed to get freeze precipitation to work with Xylene, I'd been under the impression that due to the chemical structure of Xylene freeze precip wouldn't work.
 
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#8 Posted : 8/19/2008 1:39:28 PM

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cheech wrote:
SWIM just seperated the jungle oil from the yellow shards by pulling out the yellow shards with some naphta he has added it to his next batch and it is preciping at the moment. SWIM then wants to clean the spice by using acolon_5's washing tek(the one you posted in the sticky thread)

how would SWIM go upon washing the bark solution?

how should one use the oil.. is there a way of making it powdery so one can better measure it?



You can defat the bark solution as long as it is still acidic. Simply add a good volume of naphtha, slosh well, let sit for 30 minutes to an hour, pull of naphtha and discard, proceed as usual!

The oils are hard to weigh out. I haven't figured out a good way of storing and weighing them. The best thing you can do with it (IMHO) is to make enhanced leaf with it. Dissolve the oils in a small amount of alcohol or nonpolar solvent, add leaf of choice and let evaporate.
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#9 Posted : 8/19/2008 4:16:26 PM

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Another solution to using the oils as is: add calcium carbonate.

Weigh out a small amount of calcium carbonate. Record the weight. Add it to your oil. Mix it. If it's not dry add more calcium carbonate until the oil becomes a dry powder. If its hard to mix in the calcium carbonate, add a little acetone to make the oil watery, and mix it then, and wait for it to dry before adding more calcium carbonate so you don’t over do the calcium carbonate. Now weigh your powder and subtract the amount of calcium carbonate added to it to get the amount of oil that was present.

Usually a 10:1 ratio of calcium carbonate to oil is very good. That will keep it in a dry state.

You can vaporize it as is, the calcium carbonate will not vaporize. The calcium carbonate also makes it easier to vaporize the alkaloids by preventing them from running.
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#10 Posted : 8/19/2008 5:02:54 PM

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I didn't happen to pull them out at the time, as the xylene solution is what I use to clean my pipes. Most of the product in the solution is recycled from spice resin. I did, however, clearly see needle shards floating around in there. I'm not sure if I would attempt to pull product out of the xylene, since it didn't seem to rock up. I may just continue using it and save it for salting.
 
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#11 Posted : 8/20/2008 10:31:08 AM

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2 days ago SWIM had reheated his seperated jungle oil and poured it out on a petri dish while it was still hot. it has been sitting in a dark cupboard now for 2 days.. SWIM already noticed a day ago that there were crystalline structures forming. now after 2 days of waiting almost 2 3rds of it has changed to yellow/red crystals. note that this oil had been deprived from all DMT 3 days ago. SWIM was told that this stuff just has a really long drying period. SWIM has just tested scraping up some of the crystals and they seem to form a waxy, but dry ball. this stuff seems easy to store and easy to crush to powder.

try it.. just pour it on a flat dish so that as much as possible will be touching the air and be patient. heating it doesn't help drying. nothing seems to help.. just patience.
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